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Johnathon's avatar

"It is in Peter’s thinking that he has accounted for all things in his personal faith in Jesus that the breakdown of this faith springs forth."

When I was reflecting on something Trey wrote, this thought came up, and I think it connects with what you're saying here. An aspect of a self-relational mode of being is lifting up oneself as the principle of unity for the whole, which is ultimately an attempt to put all things under oneself in pride, which, in so doing, sows death into those things. And it is in this very movement of self-relational ascension that one begins a fall into non-being through undercutting the very things upon which one truly stands, which themselves are held up by the Word of God's power. And the Word is fundamentally situated in the Trinitarian Communion.

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Treydon Lunot's avatar

Very well said. I will have to chew this cud

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Johnathon's avatar

Just to add a quick followup thought that might shed a bit more light on where I was coming from: it seems like the principle of all and any unity is communion, and so when one self-relationally imposes oneself as the principle of unity in any given situation, real unity (which always exists in multiplicity) disintegrates.

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Nathaniel Rattai's avatar

Exactly. Think about the word disintegrate. For a thing to disintegrate (in self-relationality) is for it to dis-integrate (lose integration and meaning) from the hierarchy which it acquires meaning from by being integrated with it.

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Johnathon's avatar

Loved this.

A thought in connection with this:

"In the symbolism of the rooster we see him presented as delusional and prideful, because he believes that the sun’s rising is secondary to his declaration of its coming."

We see this reversed (and in proper order) in St. John the Forerunner, who said "He must increase, but I must decrease", recognizing that the arrival of Christ Himself superseded his own ministry of making the way straight for Him.

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Nathaniel Rattai's avatar

St. John the Forerunner is the true rooster

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